[labnetwork] Berkeley's reply - N2 Flow Meters and/or Flow Computers for tracking distributed nitrogen usage
Robert M. Hamilton
bob at eecs.berkeley.edu
Mon Aug 22 12:32:49 EDT 2011
The UC Berkeley NanoLab supports two LN vessels. We meter
nitrogen fed to the NanoLab and the labs in two associated
buildings. In addition, we've built and manage a LN fill
station used by an assortment of researchers to fill
portable Dewars. We use nitrogen metrology and the billing
methods we inherited from the Microlab, which we supersede.
We bill N2 and LN at fixed-charge, i.e. we do not further
break down our costs for those who wish to hook up to the
nitrogen facilities we support.
N2 metering consists of a Hoffer-brand turbine meter within
our LN vessel cage. The Hoffer monitors and totalizes all N2
use. N2 mass flow meters are used in two of the three
buildings supplied with N2. One of these is a Brooks
thermal-mass-flow meter and the other a Kurtz. Calculation
for N2 use by the third building is done by decrementing the
use of the other two from the Hoffer total. We installed a
flow-fuse to the third building to keep their operation from
downing ours should there be a breach in their distribution
lines. This building operates with less professional staff
and is therefore subject to issues with their N2 plumbing
setups. Our computer resource utility monitoring system,
"RUMS" monitors and allows us to remotely access data such
as N2 use and vessel fill needs. I often use my smartphone
to monitor utilities and our LN vendor uses a link to RUMS
to determine vessel levels and coordinate fills.
We operate two LN vessels, a 9000 and a 3000 gallon vessel.
The 3000 gallon vessel is held at ~60 psi while the 9000 is
operated at 150 psi. There is a crossover manifold that
allows us to feed N2 from either vessel in the case of an
equipment failure. When we have to switch feeds we reset
each vessels pressure-building circuit. The smaller vessel
is run at lower pressure to minimize flash-loss for LN needs
as two molecular beam epitaxial systems demand ambient
pressure LN. Also, Dewar fills take much longer when the LN
source for such fills is at high pressure.
It seems the broader question is the civics of operating a
shared-research facility. The NanoLab, like the Microlab
before is a self-supporting recharge operation. As such, we
pay for all our nitrogen costs including the purchase of
bulk LN and the cost of purchasing, facilitating and
maintaining LN vessels and their associated plumbing . We've
chosen to share our nitrogen based on the spirit of a
"common good". The disadvantage is PI's who are not familiar
with the complexity of an operation do not gain the sense
for the real costs associated with a utility. Regrettably,
there are even a few who knowledgeably take advantage of a
situation.
It would be nice if nitrogen came from the air, for free.
This would solve the issues of cost and I'd be grateful for
not get those 4 AM phone calls, from the LN delivery
drivers, about fill issues.
Best regards,
Bob Hamilton
Robert M. Hamilton
Marvel NanoLab
University of CA at Berkeley
Rm 520 Sutardja Dai Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720-1754
bob at eecs.berkeley.edu
(e-mail preferred)
510-809-8600
510-325-7557 (Emergencies)
On 8/19/2011 1:51 PM, John Shott wrote:
> Labnetwork:
>
> Like many facilities, I suspect, we have a single LN2 tank
> that is used for delivery of gaseous nitrogen to the
> entire building. While our shared laboratory is
> undoubtedly the largest user of that nitrogen, there are
> also a number of private labs in the building that consume
> nitrogen. Because they do not pay for it, however, they
> have little incentive to conserve nitrogen. Additionally,
> because we don't have great metering of our own nitrogen
> usage, we probably use more than we should in our facility.
>
> Do any of you have experience with either totalizing flow
> meters and/or flow computers that can be used for tracking
> nitrogen flow and usage at 15 or 20 distributed points
> that end up communicating to a central data collection point?
>
> Any experience with systems of this type would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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