[labnetwork] Logging and Access Control of Legacy Equipment
Vicky Diadiuk
diadiuk at MIT.EDU
Wed Feb 27 09:23:42 EST 2013
Hi,
indeed, CORAL wld do what you need, including the too by tool access.
We use a separate lab-access database & card system, which CORAL doesn't kmow or care about.
W added a back end for billing, etc, so if you have a system that does that already, you can probably use the raw tool data from CORAL as its input.
More info is in http://www.opencoral.org/
Gd luck,
Vicky
On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Hughes, John S wrote:
>
> Hi Ryan,
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> OpenCoral appears to accomplish for you the things we'd also like to do. I've been aware of Coral as a possible solution for a long time, but as I mentioned, we've developed over many years a very elaborate (door) access/accounting/billing program using ProWatch. We will look more closely at switching to OpenCoral or Badger, but I'm hoping I can add the elements for tool access and data logging to our existing system rather than starting completely over. (Our business office might rebel.)
>
> I really like the way your interlock boxes work (and look). More details about how those were configured would be appreciated, and the software interlocks as well. Unfortunately for us, assistance from our (now college-wide) IT group to work on a project like this may be difficult to come by, due to a recent reorganization and staff/budget cuts. I expect we'll need to set this up as a lab-funded project, contracting the programming work, perhaps coordinating with the CS department to find some student help. (Always a bit risky.) Any guesses on how much time you've invested so far on the programming side of things?
>
> Like you, we are also wanting to move away from time-in-the-cleanroom charges to tool-use charges, and the success of this project is critical for that transition to take place.
>
> Thanks again,
> John
>
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> On Feb 25, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Ryan Taylor <ryant at nanofab.utah.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> We are using OpenCoral to meet those requirements at our lab. The enforcement mechanism is accomplished one of two ways. We are using network-capable interlock boxes to that are physically wired into some tools. For others, we are using a home-grown "software interlock" that runs on windows and locks the screen and keyboard until someone authenticates successfully. We've been able to use that system to lock windows 98, XP and windows 7. There's a bit more information about the hardware interlocks on our web page (http://coral.nanofab.utah.edu/lab/docs/get_doc/interlocks). Though, we built our own interlock box solution, I believe the latest version of OpenCoral has built-in support for a similar system.
>>
>> I would be happy to share the software for the software interlocks too, if you are interested. I could also share some of the techniques we've used for dealing with our logs for billing (we also charge for time in our lab, but we are moving toward a billing system based solely on tool usage).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ryan Taylor
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ---------
>> Ryan Taylor
>> Software Systems Development Engineer
>> University of Utah Nanofab
>> www.nanofab.utah.edu
>> Phone: (801) 587-0671
>> Email: ryant at nanofab.utah.edu
>>
>>
>> On 2/25/13 12:41 PM, Hughes, John S wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> We have a lot of process tools that are old enough not to have any computer control, or the computer control available does not provide login records and/or access control. We've been looking at what it would take to provide this functionality in an all-inclusive way for about twenty years, but for various reasons it has not yet been done.
>>>
>>> I'm aware of a number of ways to accomplish what we want, but with all the new technology now available, I thought I'd first ask the Labnetwork community for some recommendations. Needless to say, we don't have unlimited funding or manpower to implement the project.
>>>
>>> Our minimum requirements are:
>>>
>>> • Each tool user would be required to provide a unique login and password in order to operate the process tool. (The tool would be inoperable unless an approved user logged in.)
>>>
>>> • Information about the user's identity, and the log-in and log-out times would be permanently recorded, and the information would be easily exported into a spreadsheet or database.
>>>
>>> • Additional entry fields (or perhaps check-box selections) providing information pertinent to the process being performed on the tool could also be required (and stored).
>>>
>>> We have long used a fairly elaborate door access control system (Pro-Watch 3.80, w/ RFID card readers) that has been well integrated into our in-house accounting program. We would eventually like to the have the Pro-Watch and accounting programs make use of the tool usage data, and perhaps vice-versa. (Pro-Watch has some hardware control capabilities.)
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
>>>
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>>> Laboratory Operations hughes at illinois.edu
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>>> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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>>> 208 North Wright Street
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