[labnetwork] Labnetwork - Process?

Sun Jul 6 08:56:58 EDT 2014

Hello All,

Well, I think we were able to reach concensus after all!  Sounds like folks are happy (as I am) with Labnetwork as it is.

Just to clarify, I imagined that if we had two lists (Say Labnetwork "Classic" and Labnetwork "Process/Equipment") most everyone would subscribe to both, so no knowledge or intriguing questions would be lost.  The goal would be to more explicitly invite broader topics and to bring in other voices, which could only make the on-going forum that much more rich and interesting.

That said, I think it is a rousing affirmation of Duane's vision, and a credit to his dedication how so many have weighed in in favor of the current approach.

A search function, or making the archives searchable, will be a very valuable addition.  Mike's idea of simply putting the general topic category in the Subject line will probably help, as well.

Happy Fourth of July! 

Mac
Harvard CNS

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From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] on behalf of John Shott [shott at stanford.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 12:46 PM
To: Duane Boning; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Labnetwork - Process?

Duane et al:

This seems like a valuable addition to make the labnetwork archives
searchable.  While the name labnetwork in the search string will
certainly constrain the search a great deal, I think that you can also
get a more focused search more quickly if you localize the search to the
site www-mtl.mit.edu with a search string such as:

labnetwork your search keys here site:www-mtl.mit.edu

While the recent archives aren't yet included, I just compared searching
for:

labnetwork chlorine

and

labnetwork chlorine site:www-mtl.mit.edu

The non-site-specific search returned 6,150 results  .... most of which
included the terms "lab" and "network" separately and are likely not
what you were hoping for ... whereas the second site-specific search
localized to www-mtl.mit.edu returned only 16 entries from the pre-2007
archives.

Thanks again for all of your efforts Duane on behalf of the entire
labnetwork community and happy lab management to all,

John

On 7/4/2014 6:12 AM, Duane Boning wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>    Thanks for the helpful dialog on the list, and the question of
> splitting it. Based on what I've heard, I will stick with the
> single integrated labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu mailing list.
>
>    I am making one change based on the discussion: I'll try to make
> the archive pages searchable.
>
>    As Matthieu notes, the archives are available through the link
> at the bottom of all labnetwork emails; they are standard mailman
> archives organized by date, thread, or subject. But unfortunately
> mailman doesn't directly have a search facility.
>
>    Fortunately, it looks like a good solution is relatively simple:
> I can open up the archives so that they can be indexed by Google.
> It may take a few days for the Google crawlers to walk the pages
> and include in its index, but hopefully in the future you can do
> searches for something like "labnetwork aaa bbb ccc" and get
> connected up to relevant posts in the archives.
>
> Take care,
> /Duane
>
> On 7/3/2014 4:34 PM, Matthieu Nannini wrote:
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> Is the list searchable ? I know one can browse the list archives
>> but can you search it ?
>> That would be the only downside of the mailing list if it wasn't
>> searchable and maybe switching to a "one subject" forum engine
>> like phpBB would be useful for search purposes if we don't want
>> the questions to be duplicated.
>>
>> --
>> -----------------------------------
>> Matthieu Nannini
>> McGill Nanotools Microfab
>>
>>> Walsh,Kevin M. <mailto:kevin.walsh at louisville.edu>
>>> 3 juillet 2014 11:03
>>>
>>> I vote for  1 listserve
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> *From:*labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu
>>> [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] *On Behalf Of *Morrison,
>>> Richard H., Jr.
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:14 AM
>>> *To:* Mac Hathaway; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
>>> *Subject:* Re: [labnetwork] Labnetwork - Process?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I vote that we keep just one Labnet list. It will just make more
>>> work for the person whom moderates the list today. I suggest
>>> that we can ask any questions related to fab work including
>>> process questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu
>>> <mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu>
>>> [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] *On Behalf Of *Mac Hathaway
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:56 AM
>>> *To:* labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu <mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>
>>> *Subject:* [labnetwork] Labnetwork - Process?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey All,
>>>
>>> As there is still occasional uncertainty regarding the main
>>> thrust of Labnetwork (i.e. general questions about cleanroom
>>> operation and administration vs. more specific questions of more
>>> narrow interest), I'm guessing that some Labnetworkers sometimes
>>> don't ask certain question, out of deference to others...
>>>
>>> If this is the case, does it make sense to create a parallel
>>> list, for instance "Labnetwork - Process" or "Labnetwork -
>>> Equipment", where much more specific questions can be aired
>>> without guilt(!), such as "Has anyone seen a difference between
>>> 5x9s purity and 98% purity TMA in their ALD aluminum oxide?"  Or
>>> do folks feel it's fine as it is?  I'm thinking a specific
>>> process or equipment list might bring in other folks for whom
>>> the general questions have not been sufficiently relevant to
>>> merit their attention.
>>>
>>> Just a thought that came up during the UGIM...
>>>
>>>
>>> Mac Hathaway
>>> Harvard CNS
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> labnetwork mailing list
>>> labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
>>> https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork
>>> Morrison, Richard H., Jr. <mailto:rmorrison at draper.com>
>>> 3 juillet 2014 09:14
>>>
>>> I vote that we keep just one Labnet list. It will just make more
>>> work for the person whom moderates the list today. I suggest
>>> that we can ask any questions related to fab work including
>>> process questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu
>>> [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] *On Behalf Of *Mac Hathaway
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:56 AM
>>> *To:* labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
>>> *Subject:* [labnetwork] Labnetwork - Process?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey All,
>>>
>>> As there is still occasional uncertainty regarding the main
>>> thrust of Labnetwork (i.e. general questions about cleanroom
>>> operation and administration vs. more specific questions of more
>>> narrow interest), I'm guessing that some Labnetworkers sometimes
>>> don't ask certain question, out of deference to others...
>>>
>>> If this is the case, does it make sense to create a parallel
>>> list, for instance "Labnetwork - Process" or "Labnetwork -
>>> Equipment", where much more specific questions can be aired
>>> without guilt(!), such as "Has anyone seen a difference between
>>> 5x9s purity and 98% purity TMA in their ALD aluminum oxide?"  Or
>>> do folks feel it's fine as it is?  I'm thinking a specific
>>> process or equipment list might bring in other folks for whom
>>> the general questions have not been sufficiently relevant to
>>> merit their attention.
>>>
>>> Just a thought that came up during the UGIM...
>>>
>>>
>>> Mac Hathaway
>>> Harvard CNS
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> labnetwork mailing list
>>> labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
>>> https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork
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