<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>İ after with Prof. Karulkar. This particular case gorevde doesn't provide any issues. There is a certified seller of PVDF piping in Turkey. </div><div>Volkan </div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 01 Eki 2010, at 21:12, Pramod C Karulkar <<a href="mailto:pkarulkar9@gmail.com">pkarulkar9@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
This also brings-up the broader technology transfer issue. One
has to be careful in providing answers to technology questions in
such open forums because the disclosed material may be protected by
laws and policies, and the disclosure may have unintended
consequences. Of course this does not diminish the usefulness of
the mtl.mit forum. All the members of the forum have to reminded of
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available without an export
license. I believe it can be used to make nuclear reactors,
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kuhn, Jeffrey G<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Abbie Gregg; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu"><a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a></a>; Ciel
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [labnetwork] PVC piping<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Dear Jeff<br>
Thanks for the reply. You are right. The material proposed to
us is HarvellXT.
I will provide a ratioed price analysis as soon as it becomes
available. I
would like to place a disclaimer here. Some materials and
services readily
available at the US are surprisingly difficult to get here. I
can find the most
sophisticated LED lighting panels for example. But DI water
piping was an
"adventure" . Therefore the prices may not reflect the
situation in
USA. <br>
<br>
Volkan<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Kuhn,
Jeffrey G <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:kuhn1@purdue.edu" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:kuhn1@purdue.edu">kuhn1@purdue.edu</a></a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:
11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">My initial concern was
with organic
compounds (TOC) leaching from the PVC pipe and cement,
but it appears this new
material has low extractables. The other concern I
have is with the smoothness
of the pipe joints. Any crevices or beads in the joint
would invite bacteria
growth.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:
11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I did not dig too
deeply into the
specifications, but the following link from one
supplier may be of some use:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:
11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">It appears there is
training required to
acquire the skill set needed to properly use the
system, not unlike with PVDF
fusion. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:
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see the cost
difference between the two systems.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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