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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have had extensive grief with this same scenario when I was in industry. To make a long story short, Diborane in the absence of Hydrogen will form solid particles because of the cooling effect (Joule-Thomson) of the regulator reducing the pressure. The solids are what is known as Decaborane (B10H6). Unfortunately, they form mostly on the seat of the bonnet and allow the regulator to “creep” resulting in the high pressure leaking past the regulator and into the low pressure side. Some engineers have tried to chill the bottle to reduce the Joule Thomson effect but that just resulted in the material forming elsewhere in the circuit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Your regulator is certainly suited for handling Diborane but you must get used to the fact that they will degrade over time as this material is formed. My suggestions are as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Replace the regulator with a two stage unit, this will extend the failure time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Specify a large CV on all new regulators, this will extend the life because the effect will be on a larger surface area.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>“Stack” regulators in series, The less that the regulator has to reduce pressure, the less Joule Thomson effect will happen. This is expensive and clumsy but a colleague of mine tells me that he has run this set up for three years without incident.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Best method for an absolute cure is to (if you can) switch your mixture to H2 instead of N2, you may not be able to do this depending on your process but if you can, it will eliminate the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>I used to run 5000 PPM B2H6 in N2 as a dopant to a furnace, H2 was out of the question because the process was close to the auto ignition point of H2. I used Tescom 1/2” bonnet regulators and swapped them out every three months. If we didn’t change them regularly, they would begin to creep and ultimately fail. It is a phenomenon that you have to deal with in an expensive manner.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Steve Paolini<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Harvard University Center for Nanoscale Systems<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Leif Johansen<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 16, 2012 7:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> Lab Network (labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu)<br><b>Subject:</b> [labnetwork] Issue with diborane in nitrogen mixture<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Here at DTU Danchip we are facing some difficulties with diborane in nitrogen mixtures. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I the recent months we have made the following observations with our 3% diborane in nitrogen mixture:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Approximately half year ago, the safety valve opened up due to a too large overpressure on the secondary side of the regulator. Usually, the secondary pressure is set to 1-2 Bars overpressure. The safety valve will open up at pressures exceeding ca. 7 Bars. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>At that time we believed that the incident was caused by a faulty gas panel regulator. So we changed the regulator and continued to use the gas. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>However, in the past month or so we have seen that the pressure rises from the setpoint of 1.5 Bars to around 3 Bars. If we then consume gas from the line, the pressure has been observed to drop in discrete steps rather than in a smooth way. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>This week the pressure suddenly increased dramatically again, leading to a new safety valve release. We have now shut down the gas line. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My questions are : <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>The bottle is from March 2010. I have once read that over time diborane decomposes into higher order borohydrides, which, unlike diborane, are solid and can clog orifices and nozzles. This phenomenon has already been addressed by Bob Hamilton in this forum. Is our diborane bottle simply too old and emits “ear wax” into the gas line?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>The bottle is located in a gas bunker outside, where the temperature can vary quite a bit over the four seasons. The specified temperature range is 0°C to 40°C (32°F to 104°F ). What happens if the temperature exceeds this range?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>The gas panel regulator is a “Rotatrex SI 240 V” gas regulator (240 Bar primary side, 7 Bar secondary side). I have read that certain materials should be avoided inside valves and regulators used for diborane gas. As far as I can read on the data sheet, the body is made of 316 L steel, the diaphragm is made of Hasetlloy and the valve seat is made of Vespel or PVDF. Can anyone comment on whether our present regulator is suited at all to handle diborane? If not, can anybody recommend a better alternative?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>These issues are causing considerable down-times of our diborane consuming equipment, so I would very much appreciate any information you could share which could help us solve the problem. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=400 style='width:300.0pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=400 colspan=2 valign=top style='width:300.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Leif S. 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