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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi all --<br>
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I vote with Vicky. I think it would be hard to separate process,
maintenance, and operations. Managing operations, even at a very
local tool level, seems to me to require a holistic approach --
if a fabrication process is having a problem, it may be because of
equipment issues or maybe the way the tool is managed or shared.
I also learn an awful lot from the discussions because the
questions asked are generally things I haven't thought of before
-- or maybe something I've always wanted to know, but couldn't
articulate. So I'm also with Vince, I read most every one that
comes through. And yes, I've been Duane'd on one or two overly
specific postings which I've learned to redirect to specific
individuals... The system works. <br>
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Mary<br>
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Mary X. Tang, Ph.D.
Stanford Nanofabrication Facility
Paul G. Allen Bldg 141, Mail Code 4070
Stanford, CA 94305
(650)723-9980
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On 7/3/2014 5:11 AM, Vicky Diadiuk wrote:<br>
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type="cite"><base href="x-msg://25/">HI,
<div> I respectfully but COMPLETELY disagree.</div>
<div>MIT (Prof Duane Boning to be precise) has been moderating
Labnetwork for years & it's working beautifully.</div>
<div>The information one gleans (even if one wasn't explicitly
interested before it got asked) is most useful, &
participants seem to be pretty relaxed asking specific
questions.</div>
<div>If the thread gets too detailed, it switches seamlessly to a
conversation between the parties.</div>
<div>I don't think we need to make rather artificial process,
equipment & operations distinctions.</div>
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<div>If ain't broke ...</div>
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<div> Happy 4th!</div>
<div>Vicky</div>
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<div>On Jul 2, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Bob Henderson wrote:</div>
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73, 125); ">I think that is a wonderful idea. As I
am more involved in various equipment and process
technologies, it would be a good opportunity to
help with more specific issues regarding
advancements and new equipment available for a
variety of nano specific questions and projects.
Bob Henderson<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mac
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July 02, 2014 6:56 AM<br>
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Labnetwork - Process?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif; color: black; ">Hey All,<br>
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As there is still occasional uncertainty regarding
the main thrust of Labnetwork (i.e. general
questions about cleanroom operation and
administration vs. more specific questions of more
narrow interest), I'm guessing that some
Labnetworkers sometimes don't ask certain question,
out of deference to others...<br>
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If this is the case, does it make sense to create a
parallel list, for instance "Labnetwork - Process"
or "Labnetwork - Equipment", where much more
specific questions can be aired without guilt(!),
such as "Has anyone seen a difference between 5x9s
purity and 98% purity TMA in their ALD aluminum
oxide?" Or do folks feel it's fine as it is? I'm
thinking a specific process or equipment list might
bring in other folks for whom the general questions
have not been sufficiently relevant to merit their
attention.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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Just a thought that came up during the UGIM...<br>
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Mac Hathaway<br>
Harvard CNS<o:p></o:p></div>
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