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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi everyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I also find the current version works well for me. As a fab manager/administrator/equipment tech/process engineer/…. I find all aspects of cleanroom operations and processing relevant to my job. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Even though I normally don’t have much to add to the discussions I also try to read every message find the information provided very helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If separate mailing lists were made I would certainly want to be on all of them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rob.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Adobe Heiti Std R","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Robert Vandusen<br>Technical Officer, Microfabrication Lab<br>Electronics Department<br>Carleton University<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Adobe Heiti Std R","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ottawa, Ont.,Canada<br>613-520-5761<br>rvanduse@doe.carleton.ca <br><br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Adobe Heiti Std R","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Tang<br><b>Sent:</b> July-03-14 1:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> Vicky Diadiuk; labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu Network<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [labnetwork] Labnetwork - Process?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all --<br><br>I vote with Vicky. I think it would be hard to separate process, maintenance, and operations. Managing operations, even at a very local tool level, seems to me to require a holistic approach -- if a fabrication process is having a problem, it may be because of equipment issues or maybe the way the tool is managed or shared. I also learn an awful lot from the discussions because the questions asked are generally things I haven't thought of before -- or maybe something I've always wanted to know, but couldn't articulate. So I'm also with Vince, I read most every one that comes through. And yes, I've been Duane'd on one or two overly specific postings which I've learned to redirect to specific individuals... The system works. <br><br>Mary<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Mary X. Tang, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Stanford Nanofabrication Facility<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Paul G. Allen Bldg 141, Mail Code 4070<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Stanford, CA 94305<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>(650)723-9980<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:mtang@stanford.edu">mtang@stanford.edu</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://snf.stanford.edu">http://snf.stanford.edu</a><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>On 7/3/2014 5:11 AM, Vicky Diadiuk wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>HI, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> I respectfully but COMPLETELY disagree.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>MIT (Prof Duane Boning to be precise) has been moderating Labnetwork for years & it's working beautifully.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The information one gleans (even if one wasn't explicitly interested before it got asked) is most useful, & participants seem to be pretty relaxed asking specific questions.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If the thread gets too detailed, it switches seamlessly to a conversation between the parties.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don't think we need to make rather artificial process, equipment & operations distinctions.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If ain't broke ...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> Happy 4th!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Vicky<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jul 2, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Bob Henderson wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mac:</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I think that is a wonderful idea. As I am more involved in various equipment and process technologies, it would be a good opportunity to help with more specific issues regarding advancements and new equipment available for a variety of nano specific questions and projects. Bob Henderson</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'><a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Mac Hathaway<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:56 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[labnetwork] Labnetwork - Process?</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Hey All,<br><br>As there is still occasional uncertainty regarding the main thrust of Labnetwork (i.e. general questions about cleanroom operation and administration vs. more specific questions of more narrow interest), I'm guessing that some Labnetworkers sometimes don't ask certain question, out of deference to others...<br><br>If this is the case, does it make sense to create a parallel list, for instance "Labnetwork - Process" or "Labnetwork - Equipment", where much more specific questions can be aired without guilt(!), such as "Has anyone seen a difference between 5x9s purity and 98% purity TMA in their ALD aluminum oxide?" Or do folks feel it's fine as it is? I'm thinking a specific process or equipment list might bring in other folks for whom the general questions have not been sufficiently relevant to merit their attention.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><br>Just a thought that came up during the UGIM...<br><br><br>Mac Hathaway<br>Harvard CNS<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>labnetwork mailing list<br><a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a><br><a href="https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork">https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>labnetwork mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork">https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>