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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dear Jacob,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We also do a considerable amount of foundry work. It is rather straightforward for single, established processes but when it gets to development work things are getting more tricky.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Here are but a few of our guidelines:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> As a general rule we define the acceptance criteria on measurable, dimensional features (size, distance, roughness, film thickness, etc) that we ourselves can verify with standard cleanroom
characterization equipment. We avoid all criteria that involve functionality of the device in other words functionality that is design related.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We try to involve costs not only for the finished device but also for the different steps toward the device (which is not always possible and depends on the risk/complexity of the task).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We normally charge materials (wafer, masks) separately and independent of the results and return these items to the customer if that is wished.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We calculate process cost including operator, engineer, mask design (if applicable) and multiply by a factor according to the risk and complexity of the task.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We try to explain that all we do is best effort and that is also written in the contract (I know that some lawyers have allergic reactions to that but it describes reality).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">There are many more considerations and every development project is special. Do we earn money on foundry work? Yes, but mostly on the single, well established processes tasks. Complex development
tasks, more often than not, turn out to be more time consuming than anticipated. Still, we love it out of two reasons: These tasks are a welcoming change and challenge for the process engineers where they can hone their skills. And most important, in normal
operations our staff does not go through long, complex, process sequences, so in every complex development project we discover some dependencies and strange behavior that we did not anticipate. In other words once in a while it is extremely helpful to be a
demanding </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> user of your own facility.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>julia.aebersold@louisville.edu<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 4. maj 2017 17:58<br>
<b>To:</b> Jacob Trevino <Jacob.Trevino@asrc.cuny.edu>; labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [labnetwork] Foundry Service Considerations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jacob, can you more thoroughly define foundry work? We do lots of service work for internal and external clients where we charge established process rates + labor. We have the capacity to do
service work, training and maintenance of the facility. We quote processes for projects, but always say up front that if additional processing or development is needed then the final invoiced price can change. However, we have guidelines that delineates
processing and development of IP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Cheers!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Julia Aebersold<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">University of Louisville<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Shumaker Research Building, Room 233<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">2210 South Brook Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Louisville, KY 40292<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">(502) 852-1572<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://louisville.edu/micronano/">http://louisville.edu/micronano/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jacob Trevino<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 3, 2017 12:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [labnetwork] Foundry Service Considerations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">For those facilities that take on foundry service projects, I am curious if you have a model that you recommend. For example, is it simply the standard hourly rate plus some hourly engineering charge? What
other factors do you consider when developing a cost structure for the potential new client? How do you quote if there is some small development work involved? How do you balance the income that can be generated from these activities verses pulling critical
staff time away from training and maintaining the facility?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Any and all thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Jacob<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">Jacob Trevino, PhD</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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