<div><div dir="auto">Definitely disco. I had the competitive’s vendor engineers coming over to our facility to understand how Disco can be so good. The dicing experience is very convenient (after a rather short learning curve). The machine is very reliable and does not require much maintenance, if it’s not being abused.. i.e. good cooling water (preferably DI), weekly cleaning of the chamber, etc...</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best,</div><div dir="auto">Youry</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:38 PM Paolini, Steven <<a href="mailto:spaolini@cns.fas.harvard.edu">spaolini@cns.fas.harvard.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">That photo of the MicroAutomation saw gave me some creepy flashbacks! I worked on a fleet of those about 25 years ago.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Two vendors come to mind, one being K&S and another being Disco. I have experience with both, but Disco has been the most developed and supportive dicing saw vendor.
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</a><p class="MsoNormal">Good luck,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Steve Paolini<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Principal Equipment Engineer<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Harvard University Center for Nanoscale Systems<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/11+Oxford+St.+%0D%0A+Cambridge,+MA+02138?entry=gmail&source=g">11 Oxford St.</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/11+Oxford+St.+%0D%0A+Cambridge,+MA+02138?entry=gmail&source=g">Cambridge, MA 02138</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">617- 496- 9816<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><a href="mailto:spaolini@cns.fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank">spaolini@cns.fas.harvard.edu</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu" target="_blank">labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu" target="_blank">labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vlahakis, James<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 01, 2019 3:04 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [labnetwork] Dicing Saw Advice.....<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone, I’m hoping the group can provide some advice regarding dicing and dicing saws.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have a refurbished (within the past 3yrs) <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__engineering.tufts.edu_microfab_capabilities_MA1006Saw.htm&d=DwMFAg&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=-H4Z_jeDfTYjnKPXor15vLwzBllmg8gFrb9m_k9OGks&m=nuBi9zk2EtI6eQL594rhhH5VsjHUTxPycO_Gg5IDIM8&s=3PgdUx-pKubD7Vy0tdjZzybiPz87wKFgXWO_0GbQRMg&e=" target="_blank">
MicroAutomation MA1006</a> saw which requires significant time/resources to keep online. Unfortunately, it is underutilized, only 1-2 dicing jobs per month. With such poor bang-for-the-buck we’re considering alternatives -
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<li class="m_3964236042569799793MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">A different service provider – maybe our support is subpar?<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<p class="m_3964236042569799793MsoListParagraph">For those who have similar tools, who maintains them? What are your results?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="m_3964236042569799793MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Purchase a different, hopefully more reliable saw<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<p class="m_3964236042569799793MsoListParagraph">For those with other saws, what do you have? Can you comment on reliability? Consumable costs? Ease of use?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="m_3964236042569799793MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Remove the saw and do not replace it<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<p class="m_3964236042569799793MsoListParagraph">Losing capabilities is suboptimal and perhaps sets a perilous precedent (we are university lab, none of our tools are justified *<b>economically</b>*). Have others done this? Can anyone recommend a source for dicing services – specifically
for small, infrequent jobs?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="m_3964236042569799793MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Other possibilities we haven’t considered?<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m eager to hear various perspectives and experiences.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">jim<u></u><u></u></p>
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