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--></style></div><div>Hello, I will second Shimon's comment.</div><div>Here at Polytechnic School of Montreal, we have an ADT dicing 7100 for 10 years now with relative few maintenances to do (cleaning, blade calibration..etc). The tool is very easy to use and to program. Cost for blades are around 35 US$, we buy it directly from ADT in Israel, and we have also good service from ADT US. We bought the tool new in 2010, and we do not regret our choice so far.</div><div>Hope this help!</div><div>Christophe Clément</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>De: </b>"Shimon Eliav" <shimonel@savion.huji.ac.il><br><b>À: </b>"Paolini, Steven" <spaolini@cns.fas.harvard.edu>, "Vlahakis, James K." <james.vlahakis@tufts.edu>, "labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu" <labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu><br><b>Envoyé: </b>Vendredi 2 Août 2019 01:36:42<br><b>Objet: </b>Re: [labnetwork] Dicing Saw Advice.....<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">As Steve, I also got the exact same feeling when I saw the picture: I refurbished one of those machines some 30 years ago. Today we have an ADT system. It is simple to use, ease to program and all in all we are
very satisfied with it: it is running for more than ten years with not big maintenance issues. It is a “work horse” and its flexibility makes it very suitable for academic use. The support we have here in Israel is nice (perhaps also in US). The machine we
got was an ADT demo system, we purchased it by half price, some 60k$.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Good luck!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Shimon Eliav</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The Unit for Nano Fabrication (UNF)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The Hebrew University of Jerusalem</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paolini, Steven<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 2 August 2019 0:48<br>
<b>To:</b> Vlahakis, James K. <james.vlahakis@tufts.edu>; 'labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu' <labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [labnetwork] Dicing Saw Advice.....</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That photo of the MicroAutomation saw gave me some creepy flashbacks! I worked on a fleet of those about 25 years ago.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Two vendors come to mind, one being K&S and another being Disco. I have experience with both, but Disco has been the most developed and supportive dicing saw vendor.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good luck,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Steve Paolini</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Principal Equipment Engineer</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Harvard University Center for Nanoscale Systems</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">11 Oxford St.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Cambridge, MA 02138</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">617- 496- 9816</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><a href="mailto:spaolini@cns.fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank">spaolini@cns.fas.harvard.edu</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><a href="http://www.cns.fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank">www.cns.fas.harvard.edu</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu" target="_blank">
labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu" target="_blank">labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vlahakis, James<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 01, 2019 3:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu' <<a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu" target="_blank">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [labnetwork] Dicing Saw Advice.....</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone, I’m hoping the group can provide some advice regarding dicing and dicing saws.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have a refurbished (within the past 3yrs) <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__engineering.tufts.edu_microfab_capabilities_MA1006Saw.htm&d=DwMFAg&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=-H4Z_jeDfTYjnKPXor15vLwzBllmg8gFrb9m_k9OGks&m=nuBi9zk2EtI6eQL594rhhH5VsjHUTxPycO_Gg5IDIM8&s=3PgdUx-pKubD7Vy0tdjZzybiPz87wKFgXWO_0GbQRMg&e=" target="_blank">
MicroAutomation MA1006</a> saw which requires significant time/resources to keep online. Unfortunately, it is underutilized, only 1-2 dicing jobs per month. With such poor bang-for-the-buck we’re considering alternatives -
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">A different service provider – maybe our support is subpar?</li></ul>
<p class="MsoListParagraph">For those who have similar tools, who maintains them? What are your results?</p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">Purchase a different, hopefully more reliable saw</li></ul>
<p class="MsoListParagraph">For those with other saws, what do you have? Can you comment on reliability? Consumable costs? Ease of use?</p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">Remove the saw and do not replace it</li></ul>
<p class="MsoListParagraph">Losing capabilities is suboptimal and perhaps sets a perilous precedent (we are university lab, none of our tools are justified *<b>economically</b>*). Have others done this? Can anyone recommend a source for dicing services – specifically
for small, infrequent jobs?</p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">Other possibilities we haven’t considered?</li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m eager to hear various perspectives and experiences.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">jim</p>
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