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<p class="MsoNormal">This conversation has been very helpful, thank you to those who have posted their thoughts/experiences.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Iulian’s comment was particularly interesting - <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>During training both the trainer and the trainee also wear face shields (the type we use for acid work at the fume hoods).</b><b><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here at Tufts we are unable to train new users – adhering to our COVID guidelines while training users is not possible. It would be useful to understand what others are doing so a few questions for the group – Are you providing in-lab training?
If so, what accommodations are in place? Do you have defined metrics for tightening or loosening restrictions?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If I can present plan(s) that other universities have successfully employed perhaps I can convince our OVPR to permit certain training functions<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">jim<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu <labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Iulian Codreanu<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 16, 2020 10:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [labnetwork] Question about cleanroom mask policies<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Hi Robert,<br>
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At Delaware we ask the users to bring their personal face mask (they have to wear it to enter the building anyway) to the gowning room and cover it with a beard cover. This has worked well since we re-opened in the middle of June; the face mask is meant to
help with the virus and the beard cover with the lab cleanliness. During training both the trainer and the trainee also wear face shields (the type we use for acid work at the fume hoods).<br>
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Happy Holidays to Everyone!<br>
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Iulian<br>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">iulian Codreanu, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Director, Nanofabrication Facility<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">University of Delaware<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Harker ISE Lab, Room 163<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">221 Academy Street<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Newark, DE 19716<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">302-831-2784<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in"><a href="http://udnf.udel.edu">http://udnf.udel.edu</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On 12/16/2020 3:07 AM, Shimon Eliav wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Robert,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">When we returned to work after the first lock-down, we asked ourselves what to do regarding masks/face covers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">Then I did a very simple experiment to check by myself how effective is a face-cover to contain the particles we generate during normal respiration or talking. See attached summary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">Today our policy is: every user comes with his/her own mask and must put the face cover over it. This “two layers” solution is more than enough inside the clean room (plus as much distancing
is possible).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">Shimon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">The Hebrew University of Jerusalem</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">The Unit for Nano Fabrication</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jerusalem - Israel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">
labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Vandusen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 15 December 2020 19:29<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [labnetwork] Question about cleanroom mask policies<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA">Hi all.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA">Hope this finds everyone safe.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA">Now that N95s are starting to become a bit more accessible, there has been some recent discussion within our labs about whether to adopt an N95 mask policy for new users and when distancing is
a challenge.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA">So far we have just been wearing the standard cleanroom style masks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA">Just wondering what other labs have been using.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-CA">Robert Vandusen<br>
Technical Officer, Microfabrication Lab<br>
Electronics Department<br>
Carleton University<br>
room: 4184 Mackenzie Building<br>
<a href="tel:613-520-2600"><span style="color:blue">613-520-2600</span></a> ext 5761<br>
<a href="mailto:Robert_vandusen@cunet.carleton.ca" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">Robert_vandusen@cunet.carleton.ca</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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