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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks to everyone who has been able to provide feedback on this topic. It has been very useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Here at Carleton University in Ottawa we have been able to limit to only a handful of previously trained users. Whenever possible the lab staff have been running processes for users.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">No new user training has been done since March, but we have been starting to get more requests though. I also like the idea of the face shields for close work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Rob<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> Robert Vandusen<br>
Microfabrication Cleanlab Facility Manager<br>
Electronics Department<br>
Carleton University<br>
room: 4184 Mackenzie Building<br>
613-520-2600 ext 5761<br>
<a href="mailto:Robert_vandusen@cunet.carleton.ca"><span style="color:purple">Robert_vandusen@cunet.carleton.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu <labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vlahakis, James<br>
<b>Sent:</b> December 16, 2020 2:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Iulian Codreanu <codreanu@udel.edu>; labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [labnetwork] Cleanroom training policies + COVID guidelines<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This conversation has been very helpful, thank you to those who have posted their thoughts/experiences.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Iulian’s comment was particularly interesting -
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US">During training both the trainer and the trainee also wear face shields (the type we use for acid work at the fume hoods).<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Here at Tufts we are unable to train new users – adhering to our COVID guidelines while training users is not possible. It would be useful to understand what others are doing so a few questions for the group – Are you
providing in-lab training? If so, what accommodations are in place? Do you have defined metrics for tightening or loosening restrictions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If I can present plan(s) that other universities have successfully employed perhaps I can convince our OVPR to permit certain training functions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Iulian Codreanu<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 16, 2020 10:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [labnetwork] Question about cleanroom mask policies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Hi Robert,<br>
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At Delaware we ask the users to bring their personal face mask (they have to wear it to enter the building anyway) to the gowning room and cover it with a beard cover. This has worked well since we re-opened in the middle of June; the face mask is meant to
help with the virus and the beard cover with the lab cleanliness. During training both the trainer and the trainee also wear face shields (the type we use for acid work at the fume hoods).<br>
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Happy Holidays to Everyone!<br>
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Iulian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">iulian Codreanu, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Director, Nanofabrication Facility<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">University of Delaware<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Harker ISE Lab, Room 163<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">221 Academy Street<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Newark, DE 19716<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">302-831-2784<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://udnf.udel.edu">http://udnf.udel.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">On 12/16/2020 3:07 AM, Shimon Eliav wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Hi Robert,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">When we returned to work after the first lock-down, we asked ourselves what to do regarding masks/face covers.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Then I did a very simple experiment to check by myself how effective is a face-cover to contain the particles we generate during normal respiration or talking. See attached
summary.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Today our policy is: every user comes with his/her own mask and must put the face cover over it. This “two layers” solution is more than enough inside the clean room (plus
as much distancing is possible).</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Shimon</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">The Hebrew University of Jerusalem</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">The Unit for Nano Fabrication</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jerusalem - Israel</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Vandusen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 15 December 2020 19:29<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [labnetwork] Question about cleanroom mask policies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Hi all.<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Hope this finds everyone safe.<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Now that N95s are starting to become a bit more accessible, there has been some recent discussion within our labs about whether to adopt an N95 mask policy for new users and when distancing is a challenge.<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">So far we have just been wearing the standard cleanroom style masks.<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Just wondering what other labs have been using.<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Thanks<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Robert Vandusen<br>
Technical Officer, Microfabrication Lab<br>
Electronics Department<br>
Carleton University<br>
room: 4184 Mackenzie Building<br>
<a href="tel:613-520-2600"><span style="color:blue">613-520-2600</span></a> ext 5761<br>
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