<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">For all training at MTU I started generating complete training videos the user could study and be quizzed on. The students could also use this while using the system and zooming with me if required. I know this does not work for all systems, but helped get some users trained with complete isolation. Also might not work for complete novices.<div><br></div><div>Chito Kendrick<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 17/12/2020, at 11:47 AM, Hollingshead, David <hollingshead.19@osu.edu> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Jim,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We have started to do training on some pieces of equipment and been mostly successful so far. Our previous protocol usually involved an initial training session (sometimes grouped with 1-2 others trainees) to see the equipment use through
a typical run. This was followed by a check-off session supervised by the tool owner with the user running one of their own samples through the system. This required a lot of close contact of course and was sometimes unnecessarily complex.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Our new training guidelines mostly follow the model below, although there are slight variations based on the specific tool:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Viewing a video recording of a typical run. This is most often scripted right off of the initial trainings sessions we originally provided in person. The users are also asked to read-through
our op specs for the tool during this time.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">The next step is most often a 30 minute video chat with the tool owner. This is a combination of a knowledge check, a Q&A session, and a brief process review to see if there is anything
specific to their process that the video or op spec may not have covered.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">A socially distanced check off session. The goal here is to limit any close contact, although realistically this rule gets bent sometimes depending on the comfort levels of the staff
and users.<o:p></o:p></li><ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="a">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">For the check off we have had the users run a “standard” process rather than their own sample. They are given a rough checklist to follow with break points on any steps where the staff
member would need to physically check any positioning, parameters, etc. While the user is running the staff is usually within sight distance and available if needed, but is otherwise hands-off. Whenever a break point is reached the user calls over the staff
member for a check and then the process continues.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For the most part this has worked well. It is obviously much more conducive to some processes than others. Training on our maskless aligner, evaporators, PECVD, and etchers, have all worked out well. Things like photolithography, wet chemical
work, SEM, etc. have been slower to turn on because they often require much more interaction and are more difficult while remaining distanced. We have considered doing live zoom/phone calls to enable remote communication live during a training or checkoff
but have not implemented it to a large degree yet.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">By far the biggest challenge is communication in the cleanroom. It is quite loud and we have found that even routine conversations end up being shouted from a close distance in order to effectively be heard. That is why we have moved as
much as we can remotely and also tried to even limit interactions or question & answer during the in-person checkoff. The beneficial (in my opinion) side effect of this is that it forces the users to be much more self-reliant during the checkoff. Instead of
simply turning to the staff member and being guided through the process they must know or be able to find the information they need themselves. In my opinion this will make them much more effective lab users overall since the vast majority of their processing
time is going to be independent of staff intervention.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-Dave<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu <labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vlahakis, James<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 16, 2020 14:10<br>
<b>To:</b> Iulian Codreanu <codreanu@udel.edu>; labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [labnetwork] Cleanroom training policies + COVID guidelines<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This conversation has been very helpful, thank you to those who have posted their thoughts/experiences.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Iulian’s comment was particularly interesting - <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>During training both the trainer and the trainee also wear face shields (the type we use for acid work at the fume hoods).<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here at Tufts we are unable to train new users – adhering to our COVID guidelines while training users is not possible. It would be useful to understand what others are doing so a few questions for the group – Are you providing in-lab training?
If so, what accommodations are in place? Do you have defined metrics for tightening or loosening restrictions?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If I can present plan(s) that other universities have successfully employed perhaps I can convince our OVPR to permit certain training functions<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">jim<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">
labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Iulian Codreanu<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 16, 2020 10:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [labnetwork] Question about cleanroom mask policies<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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Hi Robert,<br>
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At Delaware we ask the users to bring their personal face mask (they have to wear it to enter the building anyway) to the gowning room and cover it with a beard cover. This has worked well since we re-opened in the middle of June; the face mask is meant to
help with the virus and the beard cover with the lab cleanliness. During training both the trainer and the trainee also wear face shields (the type we use for acid work at the fume hoods).<br>
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Happy Holidays to Everyone!<br>
<br>
Iulian<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">iulian Codreanu, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Director, Nanofabrication Facility<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">University of Delaware<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Harker ISE Lab, Room 163<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">221 Academy Street<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Newark, DE 19716<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">302-831-2784<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On 12/16/2020 3:07 AM, Shimon Eliav wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Robert,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">When we returned to work after the first lock-down, we asked ourselves what to do regarding masks/face covers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">Then I did a very simple experiment to check by myself how effective is a face-cover to contain the particles we generate during normal respiration or talking. See attached summary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">Today our policy is: every user comes with his/her own mask and must put the face cover over it. This “two layers” solution is more than enough inside the clean room (plus as much distancing
is possible).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">Shimon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">The Hebrew University of Jerusalem</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">The Unit for Nano Fabrication</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jerusalem - Israel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">
labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Vandusen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 15 December 2020 19:29<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [labnetwork] Question about cleanroom mask policies<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA">Hi all.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA">Hope this finds everyone safe.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA">Now that N95s are starting to become a bit more accessible, there has been some recent discussion within our labs about whether to adopt an N95 mask policy for new users and when distancing is
a challenge.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA">So far we have just been wearing the standard cleanroom style masks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA">Just wondering what other labs have been using.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-CA">Robert Vandusen<br>
Technical Officer, Microfabrication Lab<br>
Electronics Department<br>
Carleton University<br>
room: 4184 Mackenzie Building<br>
<a href="tel:613-520-2600"><span style="color:blue">613-520-2600</span></a> ext 5761<br>
<a href="mailto:Robert_vandusen@cunet.carleton.ca" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">Robert_vandusen@cunet.carleton.ca</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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