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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Joseph,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">At SMC in Edinburgh we did consider this but decided it wasn’t worth the effort involved for an open access facility. We do try to
have decent systems with good documentation in place and regularly do work for large ISO9000 certified organisations and have always managed to satisfy them with an audit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paolini, Steven<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 22 March 2023 20:47<br>
<b>To:</b> Joseph Losby <joseph.losby@ucalgary.ca>; labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [labnetwork] Is your facility ISO certified?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Joseph,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> ISO certification is primarily for a manufacturing facility. I don't know of any benefit a shared use facility (I'm assuming that's what you have) would
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Becoming ISO certified is extremely expensive and disruptive, you must also allow annual "audits" to your facility which again are very expensive and disruptive.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Iso Certification, in simple terms is just an accreditation that you do what you document and document what you do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I remember confronting the CEO of a company that I used to work for and asking him if it made the facility any better, his answer was a firm "NO". I then
inquired as to why we do it and the answer was "Because our competition has it".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Best of luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Steve Paolini Equipment Dood<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Harvard University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> labnetwork <<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a>>
on behalf of Joseph Losby <<a href="mailto:joseph.losby@ucalgary.ca">joseph.losby@ucalgary.ca</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [labnetwork] Is your facility ISO certified?</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Is your cleanroom facility ISO certified? What are your reasons for having or not having ISO certification? Are there any particular changes you have
had to make to your facility to adhere to standards?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The costs appear to be substantial, and we are still deciding whether or not we should go this route.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Cheers and thanks for your replies,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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