<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone, <div><br></div><div>This has been an insightful and fascinating thread to follow. I've had the opportunity to talk with a few of you about our garment situation, and the outcome of those conversations has me looking into what it would take to get set up with our own washing machine and racking equipment, too. With the hope that I'm not shifting the conversation too much from the original post's topic, what is your experience or recommendations for what to look for in an industrial washing machine?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Brian K. Olmsted<br></div><div>Associate Director of Laboratory Operations<br><div>University of Minnesota | Minnesota Nano Center<br><div><a href="http://cse.umn.edu/mnc" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">cse.umn.edu/mnc</a><br></div></div><div>612.626.3287</div><div><a href="mailto:olms0025@umn.edu" target="_blank">olms0025@umn.edu</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 4:15 PM Aebersold, Julia <<a href="mailto:julia.aebersold@louisville.edu">julia.aebersold@louisville.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg3214406635238536309">
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We do the exact same process here at the the University of Louisville.</div>
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We do our own cleanroom laundry here at UC Davis too. We use our own washing machine and student assistant labor; except we air dry the garments. Much cheaper and much less of a headache than our previous relationship with Aramark.</div>
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<p>At UW-Madison we have done something similar. We have a SS industrial washing machine hooked up to RO water and an industrial dryer with HEPA filter. We pay student hourlies to do the laundry, fold it, and put in gown room racks.
With laundry detergent and student hourlies we are probably under $1K a year on garment logistics.
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<p><b>From:</b> labnetwork <<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu" target="_blank">labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Collins, Deon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 9:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dennis Schweiger <<a href="mailto:schweig@umich.edu" target="_blank">schweig@umich.edu</a>>; Fab Network <<a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu" target="_blank">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a>><br>
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<p>Holonyak lab used a cleaning service until 2021. It was never a good solution. We continually had item lost, damaged, mixed in with our returns and lost/damaged shipments. On top of that the manpower it took to manage the shipping
deliveries and inventory moving around does not pay off. We ended up buying a quality top loader washer with a SS drum. We also ended up installing a small but effective RO on the water supply line, a bag sealer, properly sized bags, and a set of nice SS racks.
We hang the cleanroom suites up to dry on the racking in the same space as our washer. Our washing machine is in a storage room which is within our clean room. As the garments a not porous there is little to no water, they dry quickly. We also bag them for
storage till they are required for swap out. Our losses have gone to near zero and we feel there is a better product provided to our cleanroom users. As we already owned our garments it was a no brainier. Our lab assistants process the laundry in the evening.
We were spending thousands just for laundry services a year. On top of that the loses, damages and shipping were all recouped in a matter of months. Granted you will need a little assistance from the staff but it is worth it.
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Holonyak Micro & Nanotechnology Lab</span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dennis Schweiger<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 19, 2023 12:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fab Network <<a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu" target="_blank">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [labnetwork] launderable cleanroom clothing</p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Good afternoon all,</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Here at the University of Michigan/LNF we've been using launderable garments for many years (Cintas is the provider). We've had mostly good success, and our vendor has helped us to incorporate
a simple suit modification to allow for better identification of individuals when they are in full garb. As part of our due diligence for keeping costs under control, we'd be interested in comparing notes with other Universities that are also using an outside
company to provide your laundry service. Currently our laundry costs run us about $52K/year and we're laundering roughly 500 pieces of clothing every week.</span></p>
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