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Here at the University of Florida we merged the fabrication and
characterization facilities 13yrs ago. Neither side "pulls its own
weight" and the facility as a whole is subsidized by the college and
university. The characterization side has a high cost of operation
due to all the service contracts where as the fabrication side tends
to perform a lot of repairs in house. Our characterization side
brings in more revenue than our fabrication side but has these
higher expenses. So it becomes a wash.<br>
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To back up Iulian's comments, each instrument or tool (service line)
is considered independent in a rate review so surplus revenue from
one service line cannot be used to offset a cost from another
service line.<br>
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Good topic for a happy hour at UGIM. The fiscal side is too painful
to discuss without a beer/wine. ;)<br>
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Best Regards,<br>
Brent
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/29/2026 7:29 AM, Iulian Codreanu
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<div>Hi Mac,<br>
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Here at UDel the fabrication lab and imaging/characterization
lab are operated separately so I cannot provide direct input but
I have a general comment; you are likely aware of this (and it
likely does not apply to you) so it is mostly for folks who are
new to the field. <br>
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When these labs are operated as independent service centers,
federal rules prevent subsidies within and across service
centers. A tool is not allowed to subsidize another tool within
a service center and a service center is prohibited from
subsidizing another.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Iulian
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Director, Nanofabrication Facility
University of Delaware
Harker ISE Lab, Room 163
221 Academy Street
Newark, DE 19716
302-831-2784
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/28/2026 10:58 AM, Hathaway,
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Hey All,</div>
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A question has come up here about relative expenditures and
subsidy levels between fabrication labs and
imaging/characterization labs, in core centers where such
functionality is combined. Here at Harvard we have all
three under one roof at CNS.</div>
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I did a <a href="https://nanobot.chat/" originalsrc="https://nanobot.chat/" id="OWA1f8547c0-a6cd-ab7b-b06c-f4120009aaa1" class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext" data-auth="NotApplicable" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://nanobot.chat/</a>search around this topic but
didn't find much. (nanobot.chat is an AI enabled search of
Labnetwork, for those who may not have heard about it).</div>
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I seem to remember this or a similar topic being addressed
at a previous UGIM meeting, but my recollection is hazy...</div>
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Thus, a few questions:</div>
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How many core centers combine Imaging and Characterization
and Fabrication (cleanroom) under one umbrella?</div>
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For those that do combine them, do you generally find that
each section is able to "pull its own weight" financially?
Does either one ever "break even"?</div>
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Is income from the nanofab used to subsidize
imaging/characterization efforts, or vice versa?</div>
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Is each unit financially independent and, as such, survives
on partial subsidies from the university that are not
considered collectively?</div>
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And lastly, what sort of expense/income breakdown
(percentage-wise) have you seen between such units, if they
are treated collectively as one big core center.</div>
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Apologies if this delves too deeply into sensitive fiscal
areas.</div>
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This might be a good topic for some sub-group at the
upcoming UGIM, if it is not already on the agenda.</div>
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Mac Hathaway</div>
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