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<p>I see headphones/ear buds with noise cancelling as a huge problem
in a hazardous environment. </p>
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<p>I have had to yell at a user to get their attention during a TGMS
alarm/lab evacuation (it was a false that occurred during new
sensor installation and calibration) - it really freaked me out
that this person was so involved in whatever zoom mtg they were in
- that they did not notice everyone leaving, the strobes, the
whooping sirens...</p>
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<p>Of course most of us have kids with nice Bose headphones and
getting their attention without waving hands in their faces
sometimes is par for the course...so we shouldn't be surprised.</p>
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<p>Best to All,</p>
<p>C</p>
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We allow both headphones and earbuds for the purpose of noise
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<b>To:</b> Jacob T. Trevino <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jt2900@columbia.edu"><jt2900@columbia.edu></a><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [labnetwork] [BULK] [EXTERNAL]
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Hi all, No headphones, earbuds allowed in our lab. We have also
had a recent experience where a lab member did not hear a toxic
gas alarm. We are also concerned by distractions and general
lack of awareness. We do not allow phone use or conference</div>
<div style="direction: ltr;">Hi all,</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">No headphones, earbuds allowed in our
lab. We have also had a recent experience where a lab member did
not hear a toxic gas alarm. </div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">We are also concerned by distractions
and general lack of awareness. We do not allow phone use or
conference calls around the equipment. (Exceptions for a
conference call to repair a piece of equipment or for remote
teamwork related to the tool.) </div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">One ear bud or bone-conduction seams
like a decent compromise.</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Best,</div>
<div style="direction: ltr;">Michael</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Executive Director</div>
<div style="direction: ltr;">Berkeley Marvell Nanofabrication
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<div style="direction: ltr;">On Wed, Jul 8, 2026 at 7:58 AM Jacob
T. Trevino <<a href="mailto:jt2900@columbia.edu"
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Hi All,</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">We allow in-ear headphones (no
over-ear headphones), but ask them to only wear one so that
they can still hear the environment around them. </div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Best,</div>
<div style="direction: ltr;">Jacob</div>
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Columbia University<br>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">On Wed, Jul 8, 2026 at 7:52 AM Ahad
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Hello Fubo, About 18 months ago, we had an incident where a
user didn't hear the fire alarm because they were wearing
noise-cancelling earbuds. They were so focused on their work
(and music) that they didn't notice either the audible alarm
or</div>
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About 18 months ago, we had an incident where a user didn't
hear the fire alarm because they were wearing
noise-cancelling earbuds. They were so focused on their work
(and music) that they didn't notice either the audible alarm
or the flashing lights.</div>
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Following that incident, we decided to ban all types of
headphones and earbuds in the Cleanroom.</div>
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your users to wear earbuds or earphones in your facility,
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Cornell University
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