<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">We have actually had a few transactions with CAE and had no trouble. Might depend on the particular agent or seller. CAE is really just a middle man in many cases; they don't actually own the tools.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto"><p class="MsoNormal">Garry J. Bordonaro</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Microlithographic Engineer</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">250 Duffield Hall</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a style="height: auto;" href="http://www.cnf.cornell.edu/"><span style="color: blue;">http://www.cnf.cornell.edu/</span></a></p></div><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: David Carlson <david.carlson@octavephotonics.com> </div><div>Date: 9/11/26 2:14 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu, bordonaro@cnf.cornell.edu </div><div>Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Used/refurbished fab equipment suppliers </div><div><br></div></div>
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Thank you so much for the advice and recommendations! I'm glad to hear there are some non-sleazy suppliers out there. It sounds like there are lots of awful experiences with CAE. Perhaps there are grounds for some sort of class action suit...</div>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> labnetwork <labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu> <b>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2026 2:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Carlson <david.carlson@octavephotonics.com>; labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu<br>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Aptos; color:black">labnetwork <<a href="mailto:labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork-bounces@mtl.mit.edu</a>> on behalf of David Carlson <<a href="mailto:david.carlson@octavephotonics.com">david.carlson@octavephotonics.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 11 September 2026 at 01:40<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu">labnetwork@mtl.mit.edu</a>><br>
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<i>year </i>ago, we have still not received our equipment, nor even a ship date, and their staff and management are extremely unhelpful or willing to refund our money. We have never encountered such customer-hostile policies before. Please don't fall for their
boasting about being the world's leading supplier of used fab equipment!</span></p>
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