[labnetwork] Dicing Saw Advice.....

[Joseph E. Palmer]

I will second Shimon on ADT.  When we had to replace our old K&S, I 
evaluated Disco vs. ADT.  While Disco is good (very) for Si wafers, It 
did not have a wide enough range of capabilities for us.

Joe

On 8/2/2019 1:36 AM, Shimon Eliav wrote:
>
> As Steve, I also got the exact same feeling when I saw the picture: I 
> refurbished one of those machines some 30 years ago. Today we have an 
> ADT system. It is simple to use, ease to program and all in all we are 
> very satisfied with it: it is running for more than ten years with not 
> big maintenance issues. It is a “work horse” and its flexibility makes 
> it very suitable for academic use. The support we have here in Israel 
> is nice (perhaps also in US). The machine we got was an ADT demo 
> system, we purchased it by half price, some 60k$.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Shimon Eliav
>
> The Unit for Nano Fabrication (UNF)
>
> The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
>
> *From:* labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu 
> [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] *On Behalf Of *Paolini, Steven
> *Sent:* Friday, 2 August 2019 0:48
> *To:* Vlahakis, James K. <james.vlahakis at tufts.edu>; 
> 'labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu' <labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [labnetwork] Dicing Saw Advice.....
>
> That photo of the MicroAutomation saw gave me some creepy flashbacks! 
> I worked on a fleet of those about 25 years ago.
>
> Two vendors come to mind, one being K&S and another being Disco. I 
> have experience with both, but Disco has been the most developed and 
> supportive dicing saw vendor.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Steve Paolini
>
> Principal Equipment Engineer
>
> Harvard University Center for Nanoscale Systems
>
> 11 Oxford St.
>
> Cambridge, MA 02138
>
> 617- 496- 9816
>
> spaolini at cns.fas.harvard.edu <mailto:spaolini at cns.fas.harvard.edu>
>
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> <mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu>> *On Behalf Of *Vlahakis, James
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 3:04 PM
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> *Subject:* [labnetwork] Dicing Saw Advice.....
>
> Hi everyone, I’m hoping the group can provide some advice regarding 
> dicing and dicing saws.
>
> We have a refurbished (within the past 3yrs) MicroAutomation MA1006 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__engineering.tufts.edu_microfab_capabilities_MA1006Saw.htm&d=DwMFAg&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=-H4Z_jeDfTYjnKPXor15vLwzBllmg8gFrb9m_k9OGks&m=nuBi9zk2EtI6eQL594rhhH5VsjHUTxPycO_Gg5IDIM8&s=3PgdUx-pKubD7Vy0tdjZzybiPz87wKFgXWO_0GbQRMg&e=> 
> saw which requires significant time/resources to keep online. 
> Unfortunately, it is underutilized, only 1-2 dicing jobs per month. 
> With such poor bang-for-the-buck we’re considering alternatives -
>
>   * A different service provider – maybe our support is subpar?
>
> For those who have similar tools, who maintains them? What are your 
> results?
>
>   * Purchase a different, hopefully more reliable saw
>
> For those with other saws, what do you have? Can you comment on 
> reliability? Consumable costs? Ease of use?
>
>   * Remove the saw and do not replace it
>
> Losing capabilities is suboptimal and perhaps sets a perilous 
> precedent (we are university lab, none of our tools are justified 
> **economically**). Have others done this? Can anyone recommend a 
> source for dicing services – specifically for small, infrequent jobs?
>
>   * Other possibilities we haven’t considered?
>
> I’m eager to hear various perspectives and experiences.
>
> jim
>
>
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